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Test: MSI GS73VR 7RG (i7-7700HQ, GTX 1070 Max-Q, FHD) Laptop (Sammanfattning)

Allen Ngo (översatt av Daniel Eriksson), 11/03/2017

Äntligen, en GS-laptop med tystare fläktar. GS-familjen från MSI har alltid varit populär tack vare sin attraktiva tunna design och prestanda på entusiast-nivå. Att lägga till en Max-Q GPU var kanske det bästa som kunde hända serien eftersom det direkt löser ett av dom största och mest långtgående problemen.

MSI GS73VR 7RG (GS73VR Serie)
Processor
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
Grafikkort
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q - 8192 MB, Kärna: 1101 MHz, Minne: 8008 MHz, GDDR5, 382.05
Minne
32768 MB 
, PC4-19200 DDR4, 1300 MHz, 17-17-17-39, Dual-Kanal
Skärm
17.3 tum 16:9, 1920x1080 pixlar 127 PPI, ID: CMN1747, Name: Chi Mei N173HHE-G32, TN LED, glansig: nej
Moderkort
Intel HM175 (Skylake PCH-H)
Hårddisk
Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP, 512 GB 
, Secondary: 1 TB Seagate ST1000LM048-2E7172
Ljudkort
Intel Skylake PCH-H High Definition Audio Controller
Anslutningar
1 USB 2.0, 3 USB 3.0, 1 USB 3.1 Gen2, 1 Thunderbolt, 1 HDMI, 1 DisplayPort, 1 Kensingtonlås, Ljudanslutningar: 3.5 mm mikrofon, 3.5 mm SPDIF, Hi-Fi, Kortläsare: SD-kortläsare
Nätverk
Killer E2500 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (10/100/1000MBit), Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 (a/b/g/n/ac), Bluetooth 4.2
Storlek
höjd x bredd x djup (i mm) 19.6 x 411.8 x 284.9
Batteri
51 Wh, 4500 mAh Litiumpolymer
Operativsystem
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
Camera
Webbkamera: FHD ([email protected])
Övrigt
Högtalare: 4x 2 W + 1x 3 W Subwoofer, Tangentbord: Chiclet, Tangentbordsbelysning: ja, Rengöringsduk, Garantikort, Snabbstartsguide, System Control Manager, SteelSeries 3, 12 Månader Garanti
Vikt
2.43 kg, Strömförsörjning: 732 g
Pris
2500 USD

 

Front: No connectivity
Front: No connectivity
Right: USB 2.0, USB Type-C w/ Thunderbolt 3, HDMI 2.0, mini DisplayPort 1.2, AC adapter
Right: USB 2.0, USB Type-C w/ Thunderbolt 3, HDMI 2.0, mini DisplayPort 1.2, AC adapter
Rear: No connectivity
Rear: No connectivity
Left: Kensington Lock, SD reader, 3x USB 3.0, 3.5 mm earphones, 3.5 mm microphone
Left: Kensington Lock, SD reader, 3x USB 3.0, 3.5 mm earphones, 3.5 mm microphone
SDCardreader Transfer Speed
average JPG Copy Test (av. of 3 runs)
MSI GS73VR 7RG
182.9 MB/s ∼100%
Eurocom Sky X7E2
175.6 MB/s ∼96% -4%
MSI GS73VR 7RF
25.9 MB/s ∼14% -86%
maximum AS SSD Seq Read Test (1GB)
Eurocom Sky X7E2
256.9 MB/s ∼100% +21%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
212.24 MB/s ∼83%
MSI GS73VR 7RF
27.1 MB/s ∼11% -87%
Networking
iperf3 Client (receive) TCP 1 m 4M x10
MSI GT73VR 7RF-296
Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 Wireless Network Adapter
682 MBit/s ∼100% +13%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265
605 MBit/s ∼89%
Aorus X7 v7
Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 Wireless Network Adapter
485 MBit/s ∼71% -20%
iperf3 Client (transmit) TCP 1 m 4M x10
MSI GT73VR 7RF-296
Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 Wireless Network Adapter
624 MBit/s ∼100% +28%
Aorus X7 v7
Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 Wireless Network Adapter
498 MBit/s ∼80% +2%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265
486 MBit/s ∼78%
301.8
cd/m²
336.6
cd/m²
275.8
cd/m²
315.1
cd/m²
350.9
cd/m²
280.8
cd/m²
321.9
cd/m²
318.3
cd/m²
293.7
cd/m²
Distribution av ljusstyrkan
X-Rite i1Basic Pro 2
Max: 350.9 cd/m² Medel: 310.5 cd/m² Minimum: 18.99 cd/m²
Distribution av ljusstyrkan: 79 %
Mitt på batteriet: 350.9 cd/m²
Kontrast: 1063:1 (Svärta: 0.33 cd/m²)
ΔE Color 7.7 | - Ø
ΔE Greyscale 11.1 | - Ø
100% sRGB (Argyll) 77.74% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll)
Gamma: 2.11
MSI GS73VR 7RG
ID: CMN1747, Name: Chi Mei N173HHE-G32, TN LED, 17.3, 1920x1080
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
LP173WF4-SPF5, IPS, 17.3, 1920x1080
Aorus X7 v7
AU Optronics B173QTN01.4 (AUO1496), TN LED, 17.3, 2560x1440
Gigabyte P57X v7
SHP145E, IPS, 17.3, 3840x2160
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
IPS, 17.3, 3840x2160
Response Times
-74%
14%
-230%
-169%
Response Time Grey 50% / Grey 80% *
23.6 (13.6, 10)
28.8 (14, 14.8)
-22%
24 (14, 10)
-2%
55.6 (18.4, 37.2)
-136%
45.6 (22.8, 22.8)
-93%
Response Time Black / White *
8.4 (6, 2.4)
23.2 (13.6, 9.6)
-176%
6 (4, 2)
29%
46.8 (10.4, 36.4)
-457%
35.2 (9.2, 26)
-319%
PWM Frequency
26040 (10)
20000
-23%
1000 (29)
-96%
1042 (29)
-96%
Screen
5%
-8%
14%
14%
Brightness
311
378
22%
353
14%
408
31%
360
16%
Brightness Distribution
79
81
3%
85
8%
86
9%
81
3%
Black Level *
0.33
0.48
-45%
0.58
-76%
0.44
-33%
0.4
-21%
Contrast
1063
880
-17%
647
-39%
1003
-6%
998
-6%
Colorchecker DeltaE2000 *
7.7
4.4
43%
6.06
21%
5.1
34%
4.78
38%
Greyscale DeltaE2000 *
11.1
2.8
75%
5.68
49%
4.3
61%
3.8
66%
Gamma
2.11 114%
2.22 108%
2.3 104%
2.08 115%
2.03 118%
CCT
11813 55%
6403 102%
7998 81%
7345 88%
7288 89%
Color Space (Percent of AdobeRGB 1998)
77.74
55
-29%
57
-27%
87
12%
86.9
12%
Color Space (Percent of sRGB)
100
84
-16%
87
-13%
100
0%
100
0%
Total Average (Program / Settings)
-35% / -17%
3% / -4%
-108% / -53%
-78% / -36%

* ... smaller is better

Display Response Times

Display response times show how fast the screen is able to change from one color to the next. Slow response times can lead to afterimages and can cause moving objects to appear blurry (ghosting). Gamers of fast-paced 3D titles should pay special attention to fast response times.
       Response Time Black to White
8.4 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 6 ms rise
↘ 2.4 ms fall
The screen shows fast response rates in our tests and should be suited for gaming.
In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.8 (minimum) to 240 (maximum) ms. » 5 % of all devices are better.
This means that the measured response time is better than the average of all tested devices (26.6 ms).
       Response Time 50% Grey to 80% Grey
23.6 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 13.6 ms rise
↘ 10 ms fall
The screen shows good response rates in our tests, but may be too slow for competitive gamers.
In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.9 (minimum) to 636 (maximum) ms. » 7 % of all devices are better.
This means that the measured response time is better than the average of all tested devices (42.5 ms).

Screen Flickering / PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation)

To dim the screen, some notebooks will simply cycle the backlight on and off in rapid succession - a method called Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) . This cycling frequency should ideally be undetectable to the human eye. If said frequency is too low, users with sensitive eyes may experience strain or headaches or even notice the flickering altogether.
Screen flickering / PWM detected 26040 Hz10 % brightness setting

The display backlight flickers at 26040 Hz (Likely utilizing PWM) Flickering detected at a brightness setting of 10 % and below. There should be no flickering or PWM above this brightness setting.

The frequency of 26040 Hz is quite high, so most users sensitive to PWM should not notice any flickering.

In comparison: 54 % of all tested devices do not use PWM to dim the display. If PWM was detected, an average of 8586 (minimum: 43 - maximum: 142900) Hz was measured.

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Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
Cinebench R15
CPU Single 64Bit
no name
Intel Core i7-8700K
199 Points ∼100% +29%
Eurocom Tornado F5
Intel Core i7-7700K
190 Points ∼95% +23%
Test: Coffee Lake: i7-8700K and i5-8400 (Sammanfattning)
Intel Core i5-8400
167 Points ∼84% +8%
MSI GT75VR 7RF-012 Titan Pro
Intel Core i7-7820HK
160 Points ∼80% +4%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
154 Points ∼77%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
150 Points ∼75% -3%
Razer Blade (2016) FHD
Intel Core i7-6700HQ
149 Points ∼75% -3%
MSI GT80 Titan SLI
Intel Core i7-5700HQ
143 Points ∼72% -7%
Asus GL552JX-CN154H
Intel Core i7-4720HQ
133 Points ∼67% -14%
Toshiba Satellite S70-B-106
Intel Core i7-4700HQ
131 Points ∼66% -15%
CPU Multi 64Bit
no name
Intel Core i7-8700K
1405 (min: 1375.04) Points ∼65% +90%
Test: Coffee Lake: i7-8700K and i5-8400 (Sammanfattning)
Intel Core i5-8400
941 (min: 921.89) Points ∼44% +27%
Eurocom Tornado F5
Intel Core i7-7700K
897 Points ∼42% +21%
MSI GT75VR 7RF-012 Titan Pro
Intel Core i7-7820HK
758 Points ∼35% +3%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
739 Points ∼34%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
734 Points ∼34% -1%
MSI GT80 Titan SLI
Intel Core i7-5700HQ
724 Points ∼34% -2%
Razer Blade (2016) FHD
Intel Core i7-6700HQ
678 Points ∼32% -8%
Asus GL552JX-CN154H
Intel Core i7-4720HQ
669 Points ∼31% -9%
Toshiba Satellite S70-B-106
Intel Core i7-4700HQ
566 Points ∼26% -23%
Cinebench R11.5
CPU Single 64Bit
no name
Intel Core i7-8700K
2.27 Points ∼100% +23%
Eurocom Tornado F5
Intel Core i7-7700K
2.19 Points ∼96% +19%
Test: Coffee Lake: i7-8700K and i5-8400 (Sammanfattning)
Intel Core i5-8400
1.9 Points ∼84% +3%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
1.84 Points ∼81%
MSI GT75VR 7RF-012 Titan Pro
Intel Core i7-7820HK
1.81 Points ∼80% -2%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
1.81 Points ∼80% -2%
Razer Blade (2016) FHD
Intel Core i7-6700HQ
1.68 Points ∼74% -9%
MSI GT80 Titan SLI
Intel Core i7-5700HQ
1.67 Points ∼74% -9%
Asus GL552JX-CN154H
Intel Core i7-4720HQ
1.54 Points ∼68% -16%
Toshiba Satellite S70-B-106
Intel Core i7-4700HQ
1.49 Points ∼66% -19%
CPU Multi 64Bit
no name
Intel Core i7-8700K
15.64 Points ∼7% +91%
Test: Coffee Lake: i7-8700K and i5-8400 (Sammanfattning)
Intel Core i5-8400
10.99 Points ∼5% +34%
Eurocom Tornado F5
Intel Core i7-7700K
9.78 Points ∼4% +20%
MSI GT75VR 7RF-012 Titan Pro
Intel Core i7-7820HK
8.34 Points ∼3% +2%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
8.18 Points ∼3%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
8.06 Points ∼3% -1%
MSI GT80 Titan SLI
Intel Core i7-5700HQ
7.94 Points ∼3% -3%
Razer Blade (2016) FHD
Intel Core i7-6700HQ
7.49 Points ∼3% -8%
Asus GL552JX-CN154H
Intel Core i7-4720HQ
7.35 Points ∼3% -10%
Toshiba Satellite S70-B-106
Intel Core i7-4700HQ
6.02 Points ∼3% -26%
Cinebench R10
Rendering Single 32Bit
no name
Intel Core i7-8700K
7413 Points ∼84% +22%
Eurocom Tornado F5
Intel Core i7-7700K
7222 Points ∼81% +19%
Test: Coffee Lake: i7-8700K and i5-8400 (Sammanfattning)
Intel Core i5-8400
6371 Points ∼72% +5%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
6078 Points ∼69%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
5860 Points ∼66% -4%
MSI GT80 Titan SLI
Intel Core i7-5700HQ
5550 Points ∼63% -9%
Razer Blade (2016) FHD
Intel Core i7-6700HQ
5550 Points ∼63% -9%
Asus GL552JX-CN154H
Intel Core i7-4720HQ
5104 Points ∼58% -16%
Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
no name
Intel Core i7-8700K
39624 Points ∼80% +78%
Test: Coffee Lake: i7-8700K and i5-8400 (Sammanfattning)
Intel Core i5-8400
30921 Points ∼62% +39%
Eurocom Tornado F5
Intel Core i7-7700K
28189 Points ∼57% +26%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
22316 Points ∼45%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
22243 Points ∼45% 0%
MSI GT80 Titan SLI
Intel Core i7-5700HQ
21755 Points ∼44% -3%
Razer Blade (2016) FHD
Intel Core i7-6700HQ
20639 Points ∼41% -8%
Asus GL552JX-CN154H
Intel Core i7-4720HQ
19276 Points ∼39% -14%
wPrime 2.0x - 1024m
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
211.05 s * ∼2% -0%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
210.376 s * ∼2%
Test: Coffee Lake: i7-8700K and i5-8400 (Sammanfattning)
Intel Core i5-8400
191.8 s * ∼2% +9%
Eurocom Tornado F5
Intel Core i7-7700K
176.329 s * ∼2% +16%
no name
Intel Core i7-8700K
118.6 s * ∼1% +44%
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - ---
MSI GT80 Titan SLI
Intel Core i7-5700HQ
565.334 Seconds * ∼3% -6%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
539.478 Seconds * ∼2% -1%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
534.378 Seconds * ∼2%
Test: Coffee Lake: i7-8700K and i5-8400 (Sammanfattning)
Intel Core i5-8400
526 Seconds * ∼2% +2%
no name
Intel Core i7-8700K
442.8 Seconds * ∼2% +17%
Eurocom Tornado F5
Intel Core i7-7700K
440.036 Seconds * ∼2% +18%

* ... smaller is better

Cinebench R10 Shading 32Bit
10512
Cinebench R10 Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
22316
Cinebench R10 Rendering Single 32Bit
6078
Cinebench R11.5 OpenGL 64Bit
66.39 fps
Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64Bit
8.18 Points
Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64Bit
1.84 Points
Cinebench R15 Ref. Match 64Bit
99.6 %
Cinebench R15 OpenGL 64Bit
108.29 fps
Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64Bit
739 Points
Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64Bit
154 Points
Hjälp
PCMark 8
Work Score Accelerated v2
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7820HK, Samsung SM961 MZVKW512HMJP m.2 PCI-e
5765 Points ∼88% +11%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
5215 Points ∼80%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
5015 Points ∼77% -4%
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 6820HK, Samsung SM951 MZVPV256 m.2
4623 Points ∼71% -11%
Creative Score Accelerated v2
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7820HK, Samsung SM961 MZVKW512HMJP m.2 PCI-e
7882 Points ∼85% +44%
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 6820HK, Samsung SM951 MZVPV256 m.2
7780 Points ∼84% +42%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
5491 Points ∼59%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
5117 Points ∼55% -7%
Home Score Accelerated v2
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7820HK, Samsung SM961 MZVKW512HMJP m.2 PCI-e
5460 Points ∼91% +24%
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 6820HK, Samsung SM951 MZVPV256 m.2
4437 Points ∼74% +1%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
4394 Points ∼74%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
4002 Points ∼67% -9%
PCMark 10
Digital Content Creation
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7820HK, Samsung SM961 MZVKW512HMJP m.2 PCI-e
6318 Points ∼67% +6%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
5974 Points ∼63%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
4957 Points ∼53% -17%
Productivity
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7820HK, Samsung SM961 MZVKW512HMJP m.2 PCI-e
7316 Points ∼77% +5%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
7044 Points ∼74% +1%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
6975 Points ∼73%
Essentials
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7820HK, Samsung SM961 MZVKW512HMJP m.2 PCI-e
8283 Points ∼86% +9%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
7622 Points ∼79%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
6879 Points ∼72% -10%
Score
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7820HK, Samsung SM961 MZVKW512HMJP m.2 PCI-e
5206 Points ∼79% +6%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
4891 Points ∼74%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
4456 Points ∼68% -9%
PCMark 8 Home Score Accelerated v2
4394 poäng
PCMark 8 Creative Score Accelerated v2
5491 poäng
PCMark 8 Work Score Accelerated v2
5215 poäng
Hjälp
MSI GS73VR 7RG
Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
Samsung SM961 MZVKW512HMJP m.2 PCI-e
Gigabyte P57X v7
Transcend MTS800 256GB M.2 (TS256GMTS800)
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
Samsung SM951 MZVPV256 m.2
MSI GT73VR 7RF-296
2x Samsung SM951 MZVPV256HDGL (RAID 0)
AS SSD
179%
-34%
107%
184%
Copy Game MB/s
381.49
1117.38
193%
389.78
2%
1033.53
171%
Copy Program MB/s
229.75
407.82
78%
206.12
-10%
469.95
105%
Copy ISO MB/s
423.47
1974.8
366%
392.19
-7%
1336.93
216%
Score Total
1064
3080
189%
721
-32%
2328
119%
3310
211%
Score Write
417
1506
261%
249
-40%
487
17%
1054
153%
Score Read
421
1072
155%
314
-25%
1238
194%
1511
259%
Access Time Write *
0.032
0.029
9%
0.055
-72%
0.033
-3%
0.03
6%
Access Time Read *
0.051
0.044
14%
0.11
-116%
0.049
4%
0.035
31%
4K-64 Write
273.64
1219.75
346%
151.39
-45%
260.86
-5%
696.91
155%
4K-64 Read
337.66
747.47
121%
241.42
-29%
998.94
196%
1165.04
245%
4K Write
96.85
127.09
31%
71.98
-26%
112.06
16%
123.79
28%
4K Read
33.69
48.23
43%
23.65
-30%
45.64
35%
46.75
39%
Seq Write
465.12
1589.49
242%
260.92
-44%
1144.4
146%
2331.66
401%
Seq Read
497.89
2767.87
456%
491.91
-1%
1933.89
288%
2987.89
500%

* ... smaller is better

Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
CDM 5 Read Seq Q32T1: 552.9 MB/s
CDM 5 Write Seq Q32T1: 524.3 MB/s
CDM 5 Read 4K Q32T1: 402.8 MB/s
CDM 5 Write 4K Q32T1: 362.8 MB/s
CDM 5 Read Seq: 538.8 MB/s
CDM 5 Write Seq: 506.5 MB/s
CDM 5 Read 4K: 41.02 MB/s
CDM 5 Write 4K: 141.3 MB/s
3DMark
3840x2160 Fire Strike Ultra Graphics
Alienware 17 R4
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 7820HK
5101 Points ∼50% +56%
Asus Zephyrus GX501
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q, 7700HQ
4048 Points ∼40% +23%
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 6820HK
3957 Points ∼39% +21%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ
3278 Points ∼32%
Asus G701VO-CS74K
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 (Laptop), 6820HK
3009 Points ∼30% -8%
MSI GS43VR 7RE-069US
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ
2680 Points ∼27% -18%
Asus Strix GL502VY-DS71
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M, 6700HQ
2299 Points ∼23% -30%
Fire Strike Extreme Graphics
Alienware 17 R4
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 7820HK
10344 Points ∼63% +52%
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 6820HK
8057 Points ∼49% +18%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ
6824 Points ∼42%
Asus G701VO-CS74K
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 (Laptop), 6820HK
6123 Points ∼37% -10%
MSI GS43VR 7RE-069US
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ
5590 Points ∼34% -18%
Asus Strix GL502VY-DS71
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M, 6700HQ
4623 Points ∼28% -32%
Asus Strix GL502VT-DS74
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M, 6700HQ
3517 Points ∼21% -48%
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
Alienware 17 R4
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 7820HK
21846 Points ∼54% +49%
Asus Zephyrus GX501
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q, 7700HQ
18219 Points ∼45% +24%
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 6820HK
17106 Points ∼42% +17%
MSI GS63VR 7RG
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ
15416 Points ∼38% +5%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ
14663 Points ∼36%
Asus G701VO-CS74K
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 (Laptop), 6820HK
13018 Points ∼32% -11%
MSI GS43VR 7RE-069US
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ
11979 Points ∼29% -18%
HP Omen 15-ce002ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Max-Q, 7700HQ
10349 Points ∼25% -29%
Asus Strix GL502VY-DS71
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M, 6700HQ
9608 Points ∼24% -34%
Asus Strix GL502VT-DS74
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M, 6700HQ
7321 Points ∼18% -50%
3DMark 11
1280x720 Performance Combined
Alienware 17 R4
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 7820HK
10349 Points ∼59% +12%
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 6820HK
9550 Points ∼54% +3%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ
9256 Points ∼53%
Asus G701VO-CS74K
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 (Laptop), 6820HK
9017 Points ∼51% -3%
Asus Zephyrus GX501
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q, 7700HQ
8935 Points ∼51% -3%
MSI GS43VR 7RE-069US
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ
8861 Points ∼50% -4%
MSI GS63VR 7RG
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ
8804 Points ∼50% -5%
HP Omen 15-ce002ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Max-Q, 7700HQ
8762 Points ∼50% -5%
Asus Strix GL502VY-DS71
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M, 6700HQ
8343 Points ∼47% -10%
Asus Strix GL502VT-DS74
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M, 6700HQ
7952 Points ∼45% -14%
1280x720 Performance GPU
Alienware 17 R4
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 7820HK
26438 Points ∼52% +42%
Asus Zephyrus GX501
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q, 7700HQ
23540 Points ∼46% +26%
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 6820HK
22427 Points ∼44% +20%
MSI GS63VR 7RG
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ
19582 Points ∼38% +5%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ
18642 Points ∼37%
Asus G701VO-CS74K
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 (Laptop), 6820HK
16946 Points ∼33% -9%
MSI GS43VR 7RE-069US
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ
15074 Points ∼30% -19%
HP Omen 15-ce002ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Max-Q, 7700HQ
13279 Points ∼26% -29%
Asus Strix GL502VY-DS71
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M, 6700HQ
12472 Points ∼24% -33%
Asus Strix GL502VT-DS74
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M, 6700HQ
9824 Points ∼19% -47%
3DMark 11 Performance
14903 poäng
3DMark Ice Storm Standard Score
128787 poäng
3DMark Cloud Gate Standard Score
27498 poäng
3DMark Fire Strike Score
12077 poäng
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme Score
6394 poäng
Hjälp
Rise of the Tomb Raider - 1920x1080 Very High Preset AA:FX AF:16x
Alienware 17 R4
GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 7820HK, SK Hynix PC300 NVMe 512 GB
118.3 fps ∼100% +42%
Asus Zephyrus GX501
GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD SM961 1TB M.2 MZVKW1T0HMLH
105 fps ∼89% +26%
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Edition
GeForce GTX 1070 (Desktop), 4790K, Samsung SSD 840 Pro 256GB MZ7PD256HAFV-0Z000
94 (min: 85) fps ∼79% +13%
MSI GE73VR 7RF Raider
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Toshiba HG6 THNSNJ256G8NY
91.4 fps ∼77% +9%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SM961 MZVPW256HEGL
85.9 fps ∼73% +3%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
83.5 fps ∼71%
MSI GS43VR 7RE-069US
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, SK Hynix HFS128G39MNC-3510A
68.8 fps ∼58% -18%
EVGA SC17
GeForce GTX 980M, 6820HK, Samsung SSD 950 Pro 512GB m.2 NVMe
54.7 fps ∼46% -34%
HP Omen 15-ce002ng
GeForce GTX 1060 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
51.1 fps ∼43% -39%
Zotac ZBOX Magnus EN51050
GeForce GTX 1050 (Notebook), 7500T, Samsung SSD 960 Pro 512 GB m.2
33.3 fps ∼28% -60%
BioShock Infinite - 1920x1080 Ultra Preset, DX11 (DDOF)
Alienware 17 R4
GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 7820HK, SK Hynix PC300 NVMe 512 GB
162.9 fps ∼100% +28%
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Edition
GeForce GTX 1070 (Desktop), 4790K, Samsung SSD 840 Pro 256GB MZ7PD256HAFV-0Z000
152 fps ∼93% +19%
MSI GE73VR 7RF Raider
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Toshiba HG6 THNSNJ256G8NY
135 fps ∼83% +6%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SM961 MZVPW256HEGL
131.6 fps ∼81% +3%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
127.6 fps ∼78%
MSI GS43VR 7RE-069US
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, SK Hynix HFS128G39MNC-3510A
105.6 fps ∼65% -17%
EVGA SC17
GeForce GTX 980M, 6820HK, Samsung SSD 950 Pro 512GB m.2 NVMe
90.2 fps ∼55% -29%
Lenovo Legion Y520-15IKBN 80WK0042GE
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (Notebook), 7300HQ, Samsung PM961 NVMe MZVLW128HEGR
70 fps ∼43% -45%
Zotac ZBOX Magnus EN51050
GeForce GTX 1050 (Notebook), 7500T, Samsung SSD 960 Pro 512 GB m.2
66.2 fps ∼41% -48%
The Witcher 3 - 1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+)
Alienware 17 R4
GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 7820HK, SK Hynix PC300 NVMe 512 GB
78.1 fps ∼100% +52%
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Edition
GeForce GTX 1070 (Desktop), 4790K, Samsung SSD 840 Pro 256GB MZ7PD256HAFV-0Z000
62 fps ∼79% +21%
Asus Zephyrus GX501
GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD SM961 1TB M.2 MZVKW1T0HMLH
61.9 fps ∼79% +21%
MSI GE73VR 7RF Raider
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Toshiba HG6 THNSNJ256G8NY
58.6 fps ∼75% +14%
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
51.3 fps ∼66%
Asus Zephyrus GX501VS
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SM961 MZVPW256HEGL
51 fps ∼65% -1%
MSI GS43VR 7RE-069US
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 7700HQ, SK Hynix HFS128G39MNC-3510A
41 fps ∼52% -20%
HP Omen 15-ce002ng
GeForce GTX 1060 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
34.6 fps ∼44% -33%
Lenovo Legion Y520-15IKBN 80WK0042GE
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (Notebook), 7300HQ, Samsung PM961 NVMe MZVLW128HEGR
25.6 fps ∼33% -50%
Zotac ZBOX Magnus EN51050
GeForce GTX 1050 (Notebook), 7500T, Samsung SSD 960 Pro 512 GB m.2
21.6 fps ∼28% -58%
låg med. hög ultra
BioShock Infinite (2013) 127.6fps
Metro: Last Light (2013) 96.1fps
Thief (2014) 93.3fps
The Witcher 3 (2015) 98.251.3fps
Batman: Arkham Knight (2015) 10656fps
Metal Gear Solid V (2015) 6060fps
Fallout 4 (2015) 88.3fps
Rise of the Tomb Raider (2016) 97.783.5fps
Ashes of the Singularity (2016) 67.563.5fps
Overwatch (2016) 138.1fps
Mafia 3 (2016) 55.1fps
Prey (2017) 132fps
Dirt 4 (2017) 115.472.8fps
F1 2017 (2017) 12581fps
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The Witcher 3 ultra

Ljudnivå

Låg belastning
29.4 / 30.7 / 34 dB(A)
Hög belastning
42 / 45.8 dB(A)
 
 
 
30 dB
tyst
40 dB(A)
hörbar
50 dB(A)
högt ljud
 
min: dark, med: mid, max: light   BK Precision 732A (15 cm avstånd)   environment noise: 28 dB(A)
MSI GS73VR 7RG
GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP
MSI GS73VR 6RF
GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 6700HQ, SanDisk SD8SN8U1T001122
Gigabyte P57X v7
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 7700HQ, Transcend MTS800 256GB M.2 (TS256GMTS800)
EVGA SC17 GTX 1070
GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 6820HK, Samsung SM951 MZVPV256 m.2
Alienware 17 R4
GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 7820HK, SK Hynix PC300 NVMe 512 GB
HP Omen 15-ce002ng
GeForce GTX 1060 Max-Q, 7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
Noise
-6%
-5%
-8%
-12%
-3%
off / environment *
28
28.4
-1%
29
-4%
29.2
-4%
28.2
-1%
30
-7%
Idle Minimum *
29.4
31.9
-9%
30.4
-3%
33.9
-15%
35.6
-21%
30
-2%
Idle Average *
30.7
32
-4%
32.1
-5%
33.9
-10%
35.6
-16%
33
-7%
Idle Maximum *
34
34
-0%
32.1
6%
33.9
-0%
35.7
-5%
37
-9%
Load Average *
42
47
-12%
45.6
-9%
43.8
-4%
50.2
-20%
41
2%
Witcher 3 ultra *
45.8
50.2
-10%
42
8%
Load Maximum *
45.8
49.4
-8%
51.5
-12%
53.4
-17%
50.2
-10%
50
-9%

* ... smaller is better

 38.4 °C52.2 °C44.4 °C 
 31.6 °C40 °C41.4 °C 
 28.4 °C29.8 °C33.4 °C 
Max: 52.2 °C
Medel: 37.7 °C
40.2 °C46.6 °C31.6 °C
35.8 °C37.4 °C27 °C
27.4 °C27.4 °C31.6 °C
Max: 46.6 °C
Medel: 33.9 °C
Strömförsörjning (max.)  47.2 °C | Rumstemperatur 23 °C | Fluke 62 Mini IR Thermometer
dB(A) 0102030405060708090Deep BassMiddle BassHigh BassLower RangeMidsHigher MidsLower HighsMid HighsUpper HighsSuper Highs2038.238.12536.835.63136.335.24032.735.25032.433.36332.9358031.83210030.431.412528.831.416028.635.120027.939.625026.537.931525.838.440025.943.250024.749.463024.1568002459.1100023.868.3125023.571.6160023.57120002670.8250023.863.531502357.5400022.261.5500021.756630021.758.9800021.557.61000021.650.91250021.648.91600021.757.5SPL35.778.1N2.533.8median 23.8MSI GS73VR 7RGmedian 56Delta29.835.335.132.931.831.83236.535.132.428.93328.936.328.848.32761.52752.924.860.92462.822.763.32269.521.267.82174.82075.919.472.718.97117.770.117.86917.671.817.668.117.671.417.673.717.670.417.571.617.671.617.669.617.459.717.583.630.662.51.5median 69.6Apple MacBook 12 (Early 2016) 1.1 GHzmedian 17.84.62.4hearing rangehide median Pink Noise
MSI GS73VR 7RG audio analysis

(-) | not very loud speakers (71.57 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(-) | nearly no bass - on average 20.4% lower than median
(+) | bass is linear (5.7% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(±) | higher mids - on average 10% higher than median
(±) | linearity of mids is average (13.2% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 3.4% away from median
(±) | linearity of highs is average (14.9% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(-) | overall sound is not linear (31.7% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 95% of all tested devices in this class were better, 3% similar, 3% worse
» The best had a delta of 6%, average was 18%, worst was 37%
Compared to all devices tested
» 90% of all tested devices were better, 4% similar, 6% worse
» The best had a delta of 3%, average was 21%, worst was 53%

Apple MacBook 12 (Early 2016) 1.1 GHz audio analysis

(+) | speakers can play relatively loud (83.6 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(±) | reduced bass - on average 11.3% lower than median
(±) | linearity of bass is average (14.2% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(+) | balanced mids - only 2.4% away from median
(+) | mids are linear (5.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 2% away from median
(+) | highs are linear (4.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(+) | overall sound is linear (9.3% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 1% of all tested devices in this class were better, 1% similar, 97% worse
» The best had a delta of 9%, average was 19%, worst was 41%
Compared to all devices tested
» 2% of all tested devices were better, 0% similar, 98% worse
» The best had a delta of 3%, average was 21%, worst was 53%

Strömförbrukning
Av/Standbydarklight 0.81 / 1.5 Watt
Låg belastningdarkmidlight 10.1 / 18.3 / 19.6 Watt
Hög belastning midlight 87.6 / 160.7 Watt
 color bar
Förklaring: min: dark, med: mid, max: light        Metrahit Energy
MSI GS73VR 7RG
7700HQ, GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, Samsung SSD PM871 MZNLN512HMJP, TN LED, 1920x1080, 17.3
MSI GF72VR 7RF
7700HQ, GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP, TN LED, 1920x1080, 17.3
Gigabyte Aero 15X
7700HQ, GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, Samsung SM961 MZVKW512HMJP m.2 PCI-e, IPS, 1920x1080, 15.6
Alienware 17 R4
7820HK, GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), SK Hynix PC300 NVMe 512 GB, TN LED, 2560x1440, 17.3
MSI GE73VR 7RF Raider
7700HQ, GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), Toshiba HG6 THNSNJ256G8NY, TN WLED, 1920x1080, 17.3
Power Consumption
-13%
8%
-102%
-20%
Idle Minimum *
10.1
15.7
-55%
10
1%
37.5
-271%
10
1%
Idle Average *
18.3
21.4
-17%
13
29%
37.6
-105%
18
2%
Idle Maximum *
19.6
21.9
-12%
20
-2%
37.6
-92%
26
-33%
Load Average *
87.6
83.9
4%
79
10%
122.4
-40%
97
-11%
Load Maximum *
160.7
159.6
1%
165
-3%
277.4
-73%
230
-43%
Witcher 3 ultra *
136.3
130.2
4%
120
12%
180.3
-32%
183
-34%

* ... smaller is better

Batteritid
Låg belastning (utan WLAN, min. ljusstyrka)
5tim 49min
Surfa med WLAN v1.3
3tim 11min
Hög belastning (maximal ljusstyrka)
0tim 57min
MSI GS73VR 7RG
7700HQ, GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 51 Wh
Aorus X7 v7
7820HK, GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 94 Wh
MSI GF72VR 7RF
7700HQ, GeForce GTX 1060 (Laptop), 43 Wh
Gigabyte Aero 15X
7700HQ, GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q, 94.2 Wh
Alienware 17 R4
7820HK, GeForce GTX 1080 (Laptop), 99 Wh
Lenovo Legion Y920-17IKB
7820HK, GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop), 90 Wh
Battery Runtime
-0%
-32%
152%
-2%
54%
Reader / Idle
349
221
-37%
201
-42%
781
124%
276
-21%
351
1%
WiFi v1.3
191
180
-6%
142
-26%
491
157%
181
-5%
283
48%
Load
57
81
42%
41
-28%
157
175%
69
21%
121
112%

För

+ utmärkt 120 Hz TN-skärm med snabba alternativ på 3 ms och 5 ms responstid
+ snabbare än GTX 1060 utan att dra nämnvärt mer energi
+ respektabla CPU- och GPU-temperaturer vid spelande
+ tystare än dom flesta "vanliga" GTX spellaptops
+ bekvämt RGB-bakgrundsbelyst tangentbord
+ väldigt tunn och lätt
+ ingen strypning av CPU eller GPU
+ väldigt snabb SD-kortläsare
+ Thunderbolt 3

Emot

- låg kapacitet på batteriet; batteritiden imponerar inte
- ingen IPS, 4K UHD eller tryckkänsliga skärmalternativ
- fläktarna tenderar att pulsera vid låg belastning
- mer högljudd än dom flesta Max-Q spellaptops
- chassit kunde varit starkare och stabilare
- användarservice upphäver garantin
- styrplatteknapparna känns svampiga
- påtvingad Optimus, ingen G-Sync
- högfrekvent fläktljud
In review: MSI GS73VR 7RG. Test model provided by Xotic PC
In review: MSI GS73VR 7RG. Test model provided by Xotic PC

GS73VR Max-Q uppdateringen gör detta till den bästa upprepningen av serien hitills. Den har inte bara snabbare prestanda än den äldre GTX 1060 SKU under samma energiförhållanden utan den är också tystare och svalare. Det är precis den här typen av steg som GS-serien borde ta för att slå ut alla andra super-tunna spellaptops som för tillfället finns på marknaden.

Även om GS73VR 7RG är märkbart förbättrad gentemot GS73VR 7RF och 6RF så har den fortfarande långt att gå. 7RG är en av dom mest högljudda Max-Q datorer vi har testat tillsammans med Eurocom Q5. Den är inte i närheten så högljudd som fullstorleks-modellerna Alienware 17 eller Eurocom Tornado F5, men den vacklar lite för mycket mellan "Max-Q GTX" och "vanlig GTX" för vårt tycke. Asus Zephyrus är en mindre laptop men ändå lyckas den inrymma och kyla ett GTX 1080 Max-Q vid mycket lägre fläkthastighet.

Vid sidan om dom tidigare nämnda förbättringarna så följer alla för och nackdelar av de tidigare GS73VR-versionerna med. Chassit kunde vara stabilare, styrplattan stadigare och den övergripande byggkvaliteten känns aningen bristfällig. Vi kan inte förstå varför garantin upphävs om man tar bort bottenpanelen när det egentligen är väldigt enkelt process att byta ut en HDD. 120 Hz-skärmen och SteelSeries-tangentbordet är i övrigt svåra att inte gilla.

Detta är både den tystaste och mest kraftfulla version av GS73VR som går att köpa för pengar. I slutändan finns det dock kraftfullare och tystare Max-Q laptops där ute, särskilt i 15-tums segmentet där Zephyrus GX501 och Predator Triton för tillfället härskar.

MSI GS73VR 7RG - 10/19/2017 v6
Allen Ngo

Design
80 / 98 → 81%
Tangentbord
81%
Mus
79%
Anslutningar
61 / 81 → 75%
Vikt
60 / 66 → 90%
Batteri
70%
Skärm
82%
Spelprestanda
95%
Programprestanda
94%
Temperatur
84 / 95 → 89%
Ljudnivå
81 / 90 → 90%
Audio
74%
Camera
42 / 85 → 50%
Medel
76%
84%
Gaming - Vägt medel

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Allen Ngo, 2017-11- 3 (Update: 2017-11- 3)